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They are getting harder to find. Jo-Anne is about the only fabric store remaining in my area that carries these types of fabrics. I have had to find online sources. There are some sellers on Ebay that I have used.]]> <![CDATA[Book sourcing tips]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=823 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:48:00 +0000 Dave]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=823


Books relating to worship dance, messianic Judaism, Jewish roots, etc are often hard to find. They don't sell in their millions and rarely attract the attention of the major publishers. Some (especially on dance) are out of print and only available on the second-hand market.



Consequently, it can be a bit difficult to locate books. I've been collecting books for many years, and here's a summary of what I've learnt:



The growth of the internet has revolutionised bookselling. It's sadly had a negative effect on local bookshops (so do support yours), but has transformed the used book industry as everyone now has access to a global marketplace.



The various Amazon websites (particularly <URL url="http://www.amazon.com">Amazon.com, and <URL url="http://www.amazon.co.uk">Amazon.co.uk) are always a good starting point and have a vast range of product, including many obscure items. They have a feature called the Marketplace where independent vendors can list stuff on their sites. This is fully integrated and when you view an item you'll see something like "10 used and new available from $5", you click on the link and you get a list of people offering the item. Most will be new and offered at a lower price than Amazon itself. You order through Amazon but your order is shipped by the vendor.



To make best use of Amazon (lowest prices and widest range), you need to be aware of some finer points:<LIST>
  • <LI>
  • Each site is targeted at its home country (Amazon.com for the USA, etc) and items are priced in the local currency. This doesn't really matter - if you're an international customer yout credit card company will convert the currency for you at a good exchange rate. However, shipping costs are also geared towards the home country and international shipping is dearer. But it can sometimes work out cheaper to buy from a foreign Amazon site.</LI>
    <LI>
  • The contents of each site are slightly different – if you can't find a book on one, try looking on another.</LI>
    <LI>
  • You must take shipping costs into account - again, this varies by site and destination, and is also calculated differently for Marketplace and Amazon sales. You can get free shipping on domestic Amazon sales over a certain amount (currently USD 25/GBP 15), but Marketplace sales have a set shipping charge per item which sometimes can tip the balance in favour of Amazon, especially if you need a few books.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Marketplace vendors may be based overseas. For example, there are lots of USA sellers on Amazon.co.uk. If you are in the UK, you only pay domestic shipping (as it's the UK site) even though the item is sent from overseas. But if you buy the same item on Amazon.com, from the same seller, you pay international shipping which is dearer. The price of the item may be similar, or it may be different.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Marketplace vendors are only required to ship international orders by surface mail, but many offer a free upgrade to air mail. Most of the USA vendors selling on Amazon.co.uk send everything by air mail. However, not all the USA vendors selling on Amazon.com do so. Check it out first as the difference in shipping time is significant.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Marketplace vendors who don't offer international shipping may change this if you ask them nicely.</LI>
</LIST>There are other internet booksellers such as <URL url="http://www.powells.com">Powells and <URL url="http://www.bn.com">Barnes and Noble. Occasionally you will find that they have items that Amazon doesn't, but generally their ranges are smaller.



A couple of useful sites are <URL url="http://www.addall.com">www.addall.com and <URL url="http://www.isbn.nu">www.isbn.nu - both will search many different booksellers (new and used) for a book.



Amazon and the other big names aren't always good for second-hand or out-of-print books. For these, there are two database websites into which thousands of individual booksellers upload their catalogues. Have a look at <URL url="http://www.abebooks.com">ABE Books and <URL url="http://www.alibris.com">Alibris. I personally prefer ABE books, who seem to have a larger range and better prices. They also have a UK-centric site <URL url="http://www.abebooks.co.uk">here. Your order is shipped directly from the vendor.



All the above stockists carry a large range of Christian books. But if you'd rather go to a specifically Christian company, try <URL url="http://www.christianbook.com">Christian Book Distributors (large US company, international shipping is a bit pricey but their books are cheap!). In the UK, there is <URL url="http://www.eden.co.uk">Eden, who seem quite good.



<URL url="http://www.messianicjewish.net/">Lederer is the main publisher of messianic books - they do have a webstore but it's often cheaper or easier to get their books via Amazon.



One point to note when searching for books on the various websites is that they are not error-free. In particular you get occasional spelling mistakes in titles and authors. If you are having trouble finding something, try reducing the number of words you are searching for, or just put the title or author rather than both. Using the ISBN number (if there is one and you know it) can be useful, but isn't a guarantee of success.



Practical stuff when buying from overseas: <LIST>
  • <LI>
  • Don't be afraid - my experiences have been overwhelmingly positive.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Air mail typically takes a week to get anywhere. Surface mail can take two months.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Getting things sent by insured mail is normally not worth the extra cost (which can be considerable) - it's not standard practice and losses are extremely rare.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Pay by credit card, not debit card - you get more protection and can normally get your money back in the event of a problem (I've never had to do this).</LI>
    <LI>
  • There are no import duties or taxes on books coming into the UK from overseas. It may be different for the USA, but I think there's an international convention that treats them as exempt.</LI>
</LIST>I think that's everything, but feel free to ask me any questions, and share your experiences.]]>


Books relating to worship dance, messianic Judaism, Jewish roots, etc are often hard to find. They don't sell in their millions and rarely attract the attention of the major publishers. Some (especially on dance) are out of print and only available on the second-hand market.



Consequently, it can be a bit difficult to locate books. I've been collecting books for many years, and here's a summary of what I've learnt:



The growth of the internet has revolutionised bookselling. It's sadly had a negative effect on local bookshops (so do support yours), but has transformed the used book industry as everyone now has access to a global marketplace.



The various Amazon websites (particularly <URL url="http://www.amazon.com">Amazon.com, and <URL url="http://www.amazon.co.uk">Amazon.co.uk) are always a good starting point and have a vast range of product, including many obscure items. They have a feature called the Marketplace where independent vendors can list stuff on their sites. This is fully integrated and when you view an item you'll see something like "10 used and new available from $5", you click on the link and you get a list of people offering the item. Most will be new and offered at a lower price than Amazon itself. You order through Amazon but your order is shipped by the vendor.



To make best use of Amazon (lowest prices and widest range), you need to be aware of some finer points:<LIST>
  • <LI>
  • Each site is targeted at its home country (Amazon.com for the USA, etc) and items are priced in the local currency. This doesn't really matter - if you're an international customer yout credit card company will convert the currency for you at a good exchange rate. However, shipping costs are also geared towards the home country and international shipping is dearer. But it can sometimes work out cheaper to buy from a foreign Amazon site.</LI>
    <LI>
  • The contents of each site are slightly different – if you can't find a book on one, try looking on another.</LI>
    <LI>
  • You must take shipping costs into account - again, this varies by site and destination, and is also calculated differently for Marketplace and Amazon sales. You can get free shipping on domestic Amazon sales over a certain amount (currently USD 25/GBP 15), but Marketplace sales have a set shipping charge per item which sometimes can tip the balance in favour of Amazon, especially if you need a few books.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Marketplace vendors may be based overseas. For example, there are lots of USA sellers on Amazon.co.uk. If you are in the UK, you only pay domestic shipping (as it's the UK site) even though the item is sent from overseas. But if you buy the same item on Amazon.com, from the same seller, you pay international shipping which is dearer. The price of the item may be similar, or it may be different.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Marketplace vendors are only required to ship international orders by surface mail, but many offer a free upgrade to air mail. Most of the USA vendors selling on Amazon.co.uk send everything by air mail. However, not all the USA vendors selling on Amazon.com do so. Check it out first as the difference in shipping time is significant.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Marketplace vendors who don't offer international shipping may change this if you ask them nicely.</LI>
</LIST>There are other internet booksellers such as <URL url="http://www.powells.com">Powells and <URL url="http://www.bn.com">Barnes and Noble. Occasionally you will find that they have items that Amazon doesn't, but generally their ranges are smaller.



A couple of useful sites are <URL url="http://www.addall.com">www.addall.com and <URL url="http://www.isbn.nu">www.isbn.nu - both will search many different booksellers (new and used) for a book.



Amazon and the other big names aren't always good for second-hand or out-of-print books. For these, there are two database websites into which thousands of individual booksellers upload their catalogues. Have a look at <URL url="http://www.abebooks.com">ABE Books and <URL url="http://www.alibris.com">Alibris. I personally prefer ABE books, who seem to have a larger range and better prices. They also have a UK-centric site <URL url="http://www.abebooks.co.uk">here. Your order is shipped directly from the vendor.



All the above stockists carry a large range of Christian books. But if you'd rather go to a specifically Christian company, try <URL url="http://www.christianbook.com">Christian Book Distributors (large US company, international shipping is a bit pricey but their books are cheap!). In the UK, there is <URL url="http://www.eden.co.uk">Eden, who seem quite good.



<URL url="http://www.messianicjewish.net/">Lederer is the main publisher of messianic books - they do have a webstore but it's often cheaper or easier to get their books via Amazon.



One point to note when searching for books on the various websites is that they are not error-free. In particular you get occasional spelling mistakes in titles and authors. If you are having trouble finding something, try reducing the number of words you are searching for, or just put the title or author rather than both. Using the ISBN number (if there is one and you know it) can be useful, but isn't a guarantee of success.



Practical stuff when buying from overseas: <LIST>
  • <LI>
  • Don't be afraid - my experiences have been overwhelmingly positive.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Air mail typically takes a week to get anywhere. Surface mail can take two months.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Getting things sent by insured mail is normally not worth the extra cost (which can be considerable) - it's not standard practice and losses are extremely rare.</LI>
    <LI>
  • Pay by credit card, not debit card - you get more protection and can normally get your money back in the event of a problem (I've never had to do this).</LI>
    <LI>
  • There are no import duties or taxes on books coming into the UK from overseas. It may be different for the USA, but I think there's an international convention that treats them as exempt.</LI>
</LIST>I think that's everything, but feel free to ask me any questions, and share your experiences.]]> <![CDATA[Jireh Dance Ministry]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=668 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:48:00 +0000 HelenaZF]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=668 ...Jireh Dance Ministry

smooth worship and praise dance



Review from M/I Cafe: http://www.miproductions.org/MICAFE.htm
Quote:... Jireh Dance Ministry brought the house down. These anointed women of God dance with grace, power and conviction.




The vision of Jireh is to be the ministry of choice for worship arts in the community. Our mission is to train, develop, and network with both amateur and professional individuals in performance arts. We spread the Word of God to the church and the un-churched. Our charge is to develop inter-racial and inter-denominational relationships to promote "One Body - One Church."



Booking Information: Jireh Dance Ministry | PO Box 9687, Kansas City, MO 64134 | 816-304-4327 | <EMAIL email="Jireh@kc.rr.com">Jireh@kc.rr.com</EMAIL>]]> ...Jireh Dance Ministry

smooth worship and praise dance



Review from M/I Cafe: http://www.miproductions.org/MICAFE.htm
Quote:... Jireh Dance Ministry brought the house down. These anointed women of God dance with grace, power and conviction.




The vision of Jireh is to be the ministry of choice for worship arts in the community. Our mission is to train, develop, and network with both amateur and professional individuals in performance arts. We spread the Word of God to the church and the un-churched. Our charge is to develop inter-racial and inter-denominational relationships to promote "One Body - One Church."



Booking Information: Jireh Dance Ministry | PO Box 9687, Kansas City, MO 64134 | 816-304-4327 | <EMAIL email="Jireh@kc.rr.com">Jireh@kc.rr.com</EMAIL>]]> <![CDATA[DGH YouthOutreach Ministry]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=591 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:42:00 +0000 Dailey]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=591


Well Duke's Gaming Haven as some already know is a Youth outreach ministry Designed to Reach youth From all over the world With God's word. It is also Designed to teach Tolerance of other forms of Religion or none Religion if you prefer lol.

i'll leave you with a link to DGH

<URL url="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Dukes_Gaming_Haven/index.php">Duke's Gaming Haven?



and A verse that is readable in my Testemony on DGH:

“Be wise in the way you act with people who are not believers, making the most of every opportunity. When you talk, you should always be kind and pleasant so you will be able to answer everyone in the way you should.” Colossians 4:5 (NCV)]]>


Well Duke's Gaming Haven as some already know is a Youth outreach ministry Designed to Reach youth From all over the world With God's word. It is also Designed to teach Tolerance of other forms of Religion or none Religion if you prefer lol.

i'll leave you with a link to DGH

<URL url="http://z9.invisionfree.com/Dukes_Gaming_Haven/index.php">Duke's Gaming Haven?



and A verse that is readable in my Testemony on DGH:

“Be wise in the way you act with people who are not believers, making the most of every opportunity. When you talk, you should always be kind and pleasant so you will be able to answer everyone in the way you should.” Colossians 4:5 (NCV)]]> <![CDATA[Banners by Rose]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=579 Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:06:00 +0000 HelenaZF]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=579 Banners by Rose is a website worth checking out for some very nice banners for sale at very low prices. (Her banners run around $400. Extremely reasonable for the work you will see.)

here's a sample:[Image: H1umd.jpg]

Some banner making resources also available on the order of teaching books and patterns.]]> Banners by Rose is a website worth checking out for some very nice banners for sale at very low prices. (Her banners run around $400. Extremely reasonable for the work you will see.)

here's a sample:[Image: H1umd.jpg]

Some banner making resources also available on the order of teaching books and patterns.]]> <![CDATA[Restored To Glory Dance Ministry]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=331 Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:42:00 +0000 Dave]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=331 Restored To Glory Dance Ministry is directed by Ann Stevenson, author of "Restoring The Dance, Seeking God's Order". As well as the book, she also sells dance videos and audio teachings.]]> Restored To Glory Dance Ministry is directed by Ann Stevenson, author of "Restoring The Dance, Seeking God's Order". As well as the book, she also sells dance videos and audio teachings.]]> <![CDATA[Worship Steps]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=330 Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:09:00 +0000 Dave]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=330 Worship Steps has a selection of instructional videos/DVDs available, including several in a hip-hop/street jazz style.]]> Worship Steps has a selection of instructional videos/DVDs available, including several in a hip-hop/street jazz style.]]> <![CDATA[Dare To Dance]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=329 Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:08:00 +0000 Dave]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=329 Dare To Dance has books and videos available.]]> Dare To Dance has books and videos available.]]> <![CDATA[Kingdom Dance Resources]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=324 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:29:00 +0000 Dave]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=324 Kingdom Dance Resources is run by Andrew and Marie Bensley, who I've been privileged to know and occasionally work with for many years.



They supply flags, ribbons, and other items, including many things that are suitable for children. Marie has also written a number of teaching booklets to help people get started.



]]> Kingdom Dance Resources is run by Andrew and Marie Bensley, who I've been privileged to know and occasionally work with for many years.



They supply flags, ribbons, and other items, including many things that are suitable for children. Marie has also written a number of teaching booklets to help people get started.



]]> <![CDATA[Springs Dance Company]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=323 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:28:00 +0000 Dave]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=323 Springs Dance Company is a professional christian dance company based in London, England. They work primarily in a contemporary dance style (known as modern dance in many countries).



The company is available for workshops and performances at churches, schools, festivals, etc and are very highly recommended. Their teaching and performance is excellent from both artistic and spiritual viewpoints. They have a number of full-length performances including a popular Christmas show. In the summer they run a week-long summer school suitable for all levels of experience - I've done it several times and it's been wonderful.]]> Springs Dance Company is a professional christian dance company based in London, England. They work primarily in a contemporary dance style (known as modern dance in many countries).



The company is available for workshops and performances at churches, schools, festivals, etc and are very highly recommended. Their teaching and performance is excellent from both artistic and spiritual viewpoints. They have a number of full-length performances including a popular Christmas show. In the summer they run a week-long summer school suitable for all levels of experience - I've done it several times and it's been wonderful.]]> <![CDATA[Humble Heart Ministries]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=322 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:15:00 +0000 Dave]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=322 Humble Heart Ministries has various resources available - click on products and then instruments of worship.



They have their own book on flags, and also distribute resources from a number of other dance ministries.]]> Humble Heart Ministries has various resources available - click on products and then instruments of worship.



They have their own book on flags, and also distribute resources from a number of other dance ministries.]]> <![CDATA[Messianic Dance Camps International]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=321 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:14:00 +0000 Dave]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=321 Messianic Dance Camps International run various messianic dance teaching events.



They have a number of instructional DVDs available.]]> Messianic Dance Camps International run various messianic dance teaching events.



They have a number of instructional DVDs available.]]> <![CDATA[Ballet Magnificat]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=320 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:06:00 +0000 Dave]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=320 Ballet Magnificat is a full-scale professional Christian ballet company based in Jackson, Mississippi. They run two touring companies, a dance school, and a very popular summer workshop.



They have a number of performance and teaching videos available, as well as a few other items. Look under Gift Shop on their web site.]]> Ballet Magnificat is a full-scale professional Christian ballet company based in Jackson, Mississippi. They run two touring companies, a dance school, and a very popular summer workshop.



They have a number of performance and teaching videos available, as well as a few other items. Look under Gift Shop on their web site.]]> <![CDATA[book on flag worship]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=105 Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:14:00 +0000 flaglady]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=105
<URL url="http://www.flagsforworship.co.uk">www.flagsforworship.co.uk]]>
<URL url="http://www.flagsforworship.co.uk">www.flagsforworship.co.uk]]> <![CDATA[worship flags]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=101 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:58:00 +0000 flaglady]]> https://zionfire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=101 Flag Shop.



Currently my flags are flying in the UK, Norway and several places in the US. They are the best prices around. Come and take a look.:twirl:



I also have a book entitled "Flag Moves", a triatise of what flag worship is all about with moves and manoeuvres complete with some song routines.]]> Flag Shop.



Currently my flags are flying in the UK, Norway and several places in the US. They are the best prices around. Come and take a look.:twirl:



I also have a book entitled "Flag Moves", a triatise of what flag worship is all about with moves and manoeuvres complete with some song routines.]]>